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Sunday, February 10, 2008

Looking Ahead: Will Obama's Caucus Strength Translate to Primaries and Beyond?

There have been 11 caucuses in the race for the Democratic nomination and the results are stunning:
        Clinton   Obama
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Iowa 29% - 38%
Nevada 51% - 45%
Alaska 25% - 74%
Colorado 32% - 67%
Idaho 17% - 80%
Kansas 26% - 74%
Minnesota 32% - 66%
N. Dakota 37% - 61%
Washington 31% - 68%
Nebraska 32% - 68%
Maine 41% - 59%

Average 32% - 64%
With the exception of Nevada, Obama has won every one of them, and he has never received less than 38% of the support, even when John Edwards was still in the race.

In comparison, Clinton has done better than 38% only twice: in Nevada, and today in Maine with her 41% to Obama's 59%. This is the same state which had her at 46% to just 10% for Obama around Halloween last year.

Essentially, Obama has been taking caucuses at about a 2 to 1 ratio, which by any standard is a blowout.

So why is Obama winning at the caucuses?

Part of it could be a better "ground game", with the Obama campaign doing a better job of getting their supporters out to the caucuses. At least that's the spin we hear. But how true is that, and if it is, is it really because they have a great ground game, or is due to a failing in the Clinton camp? And what does that say for the grassroots support of Clinton in these states?

Hillary supposedly does well in small groups, answering questions, being personable and seemingly approachable. Problem is, that hasn't carried over in the caucus states where personal politics is the name of the game.

Here in Washington the claim is the liberal elites came out to a voting venue the working poor couldn't attend (because they were working). There is no doubt the caucus system locks out people who either don't want to participate in public voting, or cannot make it for one reason or another. Yet even after the February 19 primary votes are tallied, we won't be able to deduce much about the voter make-up because most will be via mail-in ballots, and the contest itself is irrelevant with regards to delegate selection so a lot of people may not bother to vote.

What we could be seeing, however, is that Obama's support has surged past Clinton's and the latest caucus results are masked by his early caucus strength. To know for sure we'll have to see how the upcoming primaries in Maryland, Virginia and Wisconsin turnout.

Here is the demographic breakdown of these three states:
Maryland is 64% White, 30% African-American, 6% Latino.
Virgina is 73% White, 20% African-American, 6% Latino.
Wisconsin is 90% White, 6% African-American, 4% Latino.
Latest polling is showing Obama leading in Maryland and Virginia by at least 16%. A poll conducted just after Super Tuesday, so before the results of this weekend, gave Clinton a 9% edge in Wisconsin. Surely much of this has to do with the demographics.

My guess is that Obama will win both Maryland and Virginia on Tuesday, and the Wisconsin results will be very close the following Tuesday.

Either way, Clinton will fail to pick up more delegates from these three states, and head into March 4th with a pledged delegate count that is more than 100 less than Obama, and a total delegate count that is 30 to 50 less when super delegates are added.

Given that Ohio and Texas combined have fewer delegates than California, and that even in California Obama lost only 44 delegates to Clinton, I don't see those March 4 primaries making up enough ground for Clinton. She would need to blow Obama away, but the momentum Obama is currently picking up will be hard to stymie enough for that to happen.

The fact that there will be two whole weeks between primaries will give Obama that much more time to reach voters in Ohio and Texas, and he appears to have a financial edge that will enable him to do so more effectively than Clinton. The more people have had a chance to hear Obama, the more they seem to have fallen under his spell. If he manages to close the gap in those two states it could be very hard for Clinton to recover and Obama could reach the convention with both a greater number of pledged delegates and greater number of total delegates. I believe that since over 400 super delegates have yet to choose a preference, he could also have more of those, as the closer we get to the final states the more they will want to side with a winner. If such is the case, even if the pledged-only delegate count for either candidate is below the 2025 delegate threshold, we would have a candidate with a clear support advantage, and no need for a brokered convention.

So, as things stand today, advantage Obama. Clinton may be watching this race for the democratic nomination slipping away from her.

5 Comment(s):

Comment by: Anonymous johnsmith1183

If the Obama party people will put down their Kool-Aid for a moment...Obama is a great speaker, a rock star for politicians, he is like a viral UTube video. Is that what we need for a President? He always talks about change and getting away from the 'Washington establishment'. Can you get more 'establishment' than Ted Kennedy? He sought for years the endorsement and support of him...how is that for change? He will not beat McCain, the only thing he is winning is black states and caucus states. The caucus wins are because all of the white people have had political correctness shoved down their throats so long that making a public statement in caucus form looks like prejudice. I am not prejudice, I am gay, I have my own problems with prejudicial attitudes.
Hillary can win the whole race. She is prepared and proven. If people are honest about the war vote, most of us would have done the same thing she did with the information presented to her. Can you imagine a senator from NEW YORK not voting for war?

2/11/2008 10:03 AM PT  
Comment by: Anonymous Jim. & Z.

Very refreshing to hear the commentary of johnsmith1183, since the media seems so inclined to ignore the Obama negatives. The national presidential election will not be in caucus format. The states that remain are overwhelmingly in primary format. The Obama plants will not be able to manhandle the private vote as easily as in the caucus format. Obama’s supporters will no doubt put forward unverifiable testimonials from supposed caucus attendees saying that was not the case, but how else can you explain Obama’s loses in the primaries lacking a large African-American vote.

In his victory speech on Saturday, Obama claimed not to take money from lobbyists but conveniently fails to acknowledge that he takes millions from wealthy power players.

He claims he brings change but suckles up for the endorsement of the establishment politicians like the Kennedys and Kerry (who also sold out to the establishment Bush in the last election).

He claims to be a uniter but in his victory speech could not refrain from attacking Hillary.

He claimed in his speech to oppose Bush but yet consistently voted to fund the Iraq war and this morning was backtracking on a quick troop pull-out—saying it will take at least 16 months and possibly longer. It is sad to see that he is so similar to Bush in his campaign of personality (low on specifics and substance) and apparently because he is of a different skin color than Bush, his democratic supporters can’t seem to see the similarity.

2/11/2008 11:53 AM PT  
Comment by: Anonymous David Florida

Good to see the caucus issue raised because these are not SECRET BALLOTS.
In fact results are determined by local officials.
I am not a Democrat, but I am also not voting for any candidate whose nomination was not achieved through a ballot box.
If the total proper vote for Obama exceeds that of Clinton then fine. If all he has won by is a caucus count then he can forget it.

2/11/2008 11:54 AM PT  
Comment by: Blogger Daniel Kirkdorffer

Well it certainly appears that the Clinton supporters, backed up against the wall, are fighting back. As one would expect.

But doing so by playing the race card is a risky way to go.

What I've seen in Obama's support has had very little to do with plants or campaign operatives. I'm seeing people genuinely supporting Obama of their own volition.

Regarding the issue of primary vs. caucus, I've seen popular vote numbers that show both candidates essentially tied there as well. On Super Tuesday Clinton picked up 7.2 million votes to Obama's 7.1 million.

I should also point out that the caucus system favors candidates with minority support as a candidate that earns 0.51 of a delegate will get 1 delegate and the candidate earning 1.49 of a delegate will also get 1 delegate. Therefore although Clinton got 31% of the delegates in Washington state, she probably received a lower percentage of that in actual votes, and the same would hold true in other caucus states.

Let's also not overplay the Obama wins in states with larger African-American populations. None of them are high enough to be the majority, yet he still won them. Virginia and Maryland will be a couple more states where that argument would mean that the majority White states should for some reason be dismissed if Obama wins them, and indications are he will with large margins.

Furthermore, wasn't Clinton supposed to be the candidate that appeals most to African-American voters? Wasn't Bill Clinton the "first black president"?

Come back on Wednesday and let's talk about Obama's and Clinton's primary strength again. We'll have a better sense of it then.

2/11/2008 12:41 PM PT  
Comment by: Blogger Daniel Kirkdorffer

The latest popular vote totals show Obama with more votes even if you include Florida and Michigan.

Is that good enough for you David Florida ?

2/17/2008 1:44 AM PT  

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